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Wednesday, November 2 - 9:04amSanction this postReply
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The whole notion of a "state" should be overthrown and replaced by the concept of "a geographical area of residence administered by a capitalistic system." The latter system gets rid of all the libertarian concerns of anarchy, coercion, wars between protective agencies, and so on. This proposal was outlined in:
http://solohq.com/Articles/Hibbert/Cutting_the_Gordian_Knot_-_A_Hypothetical_Press_Conference_with_Donald_Trump.shtml

Wikipedia's definition of a state is: an organized political comunity occupying a definite territory, having an organized government and possessing internal and external sovereignty.

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Wednesday, November 2 - 8:12pmSanction this postReply
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How does a capitalist system administer anything? Such a system involves the absence of coercive interference with members of a community. Its protection may require an administrative agency of some kind but it is not itself an administrator. All the disputes among libertarians focus on the nature of the administrative agency, not on what is to be protected, namely, the free, capitalist, market place. If the protection of this system requires some agency that will maintain and administer justice, that is, in fact, a government (whatever other terms one choses to refer to it). If the system can run by itself with no such agency, then it is a bona fide anarchy.



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Thursday, November 3 - 7:56amSanction this postReply
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Tibor: What I am proposing is a hierarchical tree structure of what one might regard as "Gated Communities". Gated Communities are not normally regarded as being administered by a government but the owners perform the functions of government. They set up the rules and regulations and offer their facilities and structure to the public in such a way as to attract the most residents possible. Whether the administration is composed of shareholders or a single individual is not material but the distinctive feature of what I propose for the "Domain of the Free" is that the administration acts in a manner that has the personal profit of those involved as its sole concern . They are not paid to do their job ... their only compensation is in the profitability of the enterprise. This is true for every component Gated Community.
All the disputes among libertarians focus on the nature of the administrative agency.
The nature of the administrative agency in the Domain of the Free is that it is up to the judgment of the owners to provide the best services possible so that their profits may be maximized. Different owners will have different approaches and some will prosper more than others. Your statement may be true but it is irrelevant as to whether the proposed society can function.
How does a capitalist system administer anything?


I think I answered that by indicating that the administration acts within a framework of strict laissez-faire capitalism.

Sam

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that "ca-ching".

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Monday, November 7 - 6:24pmSanction this postReply
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Regarding Nozick's argument that the dominant protection agency may evolve from an ultra-minimal to a minimal state by using force (if need be) to restrain independents or their agents from enforcing justice with sub-optimal proceedures, Nozick is substantially yet not completely right. If one accuses another of stealing his car, but lacks objective evidence that the accused actually committed the theft, then the accusor's actions taken to enforce justice are themselves unjust. This is true even if the accusor's suspicions about the accused are accurate, because lacking such evidence the accusor cannot know whether taking action against the accused is justified, or whether taking such action will violate the rights of an innocent person.

The dominant agency that uses correct legal proceedures has the right to ensure that its clients are protected from independents who use unreliable and flawed proceedures as concerns the issue of guilt versus innocence. But does the dominant agency also have the right to restrict an independent using flawed proceedure against another independent?

I think not. The clients of the dominant agency pay for the protection of their own rights, not for the enforcement of "cosmic justice". If independents frequently engage in faulty legal proceedures, that risk would drive more clients into the protection of the dominant agency. On the other hand, if independents use correct legal proceedure, then it is likely that they would become integrated into a federation that upholds those standards of enforcement.




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