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Thursday, October 13 - 5:58amSanction this postReply
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     I'm sure that everyone's aware that the subject of PTWD (PhoneTalkingWhileDriving ['hands-free' or not]) is shifting to TDWD (ToleratedDistractionWhileDriving). Some are even arguing about radios and tape/DVD use while driving (I'm waiting to hear about kids being banned from the back as well as the front seat; haven't heard that one...yet.)

     You can bet that all govt. workers (DOT/Police/etc) are/will-be considered to be automatically exempted from any/all such 'laws,' whether federal, state, county, or city.

     Such hypocrisy re popular-bandwagon 'laws-to-protect'! See where motorcycle-helmet laws lead to?

LLAP
J:D




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Thursday, October 13 - 8:11amSanction this postReply
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Great article Tibor.  You right on, that cell-phones are not the danger, it is the individual drivers competence that is.  Some people just can't multi-task.  I've been in the car with many people where the mere act of them trying to change the radio put anyone or anything within 20 feet of them in harms way.  It needs to be addressed at the individual level.



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Thursday, October 13 - 2:27pmSanction this postReply
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There are times when it is fairly safe and reasonable to use a cellphone in a car, but even then you have to be careful. That's up to us.

The various laws are silly, and a lot of time it's just about writing tickets. People who fly commercial airliners can do that and talk on their radios.

A dumbass is just a dumbass- cellphones seem to bring out a great sense of false importance in people, and makes them inconsiderate, not just on the road.

My favorite is people who go into retail shops and wave down a clerk while they're talking to someone on the cell at the same time. Very few people are that important. And the ones that are are usually not that rude.




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Thursday, October 13 - 2:37pmSanction this postReply
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I personally hate talking to someone while they are driving, because they are distracted from the conversation due to their watching the road. One or the other.



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Thursday, October 13 - 5:58pmSanction this postReply
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Rich-
People who fly commercial airliners can do that and talk on their radios.

That's true, I'm a pilot(not commercial), and if I can shoot an instrument approach to minimums(talking, twisting knobs, timing the approach, and flying the plane) then I can sure as hell manage to talk on a phone while I'm driving a car.  Of course the test you must take in order to enjoy shooting an approach like that requires that you demonstrate this ability.  They don't just have you taxi the plane around the tarmac for while, you have to perform the task of flying a plane in real life situations, with strict tolerances(maintaining airspeed say +/- 5 knots for instance), and they throw in unexpected things so that it is known that you will be able to handle them.





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Friday, October 14 - 12:07amSanction this postReply
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I'm not a pilot but it seems to me that there is a significant difference between multi-tasking several related activities and doing several un-related activities at the same time.



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Friday, October 14 - 7:32amSanction this postReply
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That's why the walking and chewing gum at the same time thing is so paradoxical.



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Wednesday, October 19 - 8:00amSanction this postReply
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Tibor,

Good article. Unfortunately, government intervention on driving is hampering the development of a business - defensive driving lessons.

I have anecdotal evidence from my own life that good driving does not come from government intervention. When I arrived in Brazil, I started driving. There is only one place on earth I know of where the driving is worse than in São Paulo, and that is in Rio de Janeiro.

After I went through the "really scared" phase and became more comfortable, within a series of a few months, I became involved in three semi-serious accidents. I was at fault in two and not at fault in one.

The reason is that I simply was not driving according to the reality of where I was. So I started paying attention. I figured that everything I had learned about driving in the USA had limited value and I needed a fresh approach. So I started noticing behavior patterns and bad habits of other drivers.

Instead of trying to impose my "rights" on everybody on the road, I adopted the attitude of not trying to run into stuff and avoid stuff running into me. I also left all my anger and attitudes outside the car when I got in.

The result is that in over 30 years of driving in provably one of the most dangerous places in the world, I have had no accidents - just those initial three before I changed my attitude.

This kind of thing is not hard to teach and I can see a huge demand for it - if the government would simply get out of the way.

btw - I am one who cannot use a cell phone while driving. I get the missing hazards part right, but I miss most of my turn-offs and usually end up forgetting about where I am going and why.

Michael

 

(Edited by Michael Stuart Kelly on 10/19, 8:21am)




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Wednesday, October 19 - 8:02amSanction this postReply
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LOL - listening to good music can do that too...



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