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Tuesday, January 25 - 12:42pmSanction this postReply
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"The men of reason have opted for cold, dry logic in an attempt to show their objectivity and seriousness. The defenders of reason have surrendered passion to the irrational. It's time to reclaim it."

Here, here!  Thanks for this very appropriate treatment of this subject. 

Jason





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Tuesday, January 25 - 8:52amSanction this postReply
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Thank you for an execellent article. Outstanding!



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Tuesday, January 25 - 7:39pmSanction this postReply
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I agree 100%. I find that when something comes between my reason and my emotion, I am left with lethargy. When I am confused about something, my passion cools. However difficult, I always need to assess my confusion by challenging my original conclusions. When I am sure once again of my conclusions, my passion returns.



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Tuesday, January 25 - 8:40pmSanction this postReply
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Joe,
Very good article.  I felt uncomfortable reading the first part but it was because of a feeling of deja vu.  I have had a bad habit, hopefully mostly in the past, of thinking that communicating with someone else is simply "thinking out loud".  I have sometimes gotten so lost in my introspection about an idea that I've been totally turned inward onto my own thoughts and I'm not paying any attention to soliciting feedback or contributions from my partner in the discussion.  The result is similar to your example.  In other words, poor people skills on your friends part may have be the cause of the agitation in his partner.  She may have felt he was lecturing her, became angry, and committed to taking the opposite stance on his argument.  My wife has informed my very firmly of my tendency to bring on this kind of reaction.  So, I picked up a book called "People Skills".  I probably should get the hard cover version so she can simply hit me over the head with it when necessary.




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Tuesday, January 25 - 9:10pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks for the comment guys.  I appreciate them.

Thanks for the examples James.

Mike, I think the situation was probably not a people skills issue, since he is excellent with people.  I suspect that the girl probably liked him, and hearing him be "cold and calculating" about emotional topics scared her.  But it only makes sense if you understand the preconception people have about reason and passion.  If you didn't know the dichotomy was widely accepted, her reaction would be inexplicable and you'd work harder to try to clarify, as he did.  When all he had to say is "I don't care...I love my friends and would do anything for them".  In fact, the more irrational, the more convincing he would be.




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Tuesday, November 1 - 6:25pmSanction this postReply
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 The same argument works on a political level. Unfortunately today self-interest is perceived as selfishness and contradicts efforts to socialise human nature. But those who have a grip on reason and passion understand that reasoned self-interest leads directly to a passion in society. Where people baulk at the idea that reason and passion work together to a greater end (even if on a subconscious level) you will find people empassioned and yet without reason. How frustrating that must be! Such is life in the public sector where self-interest is sacrificed for a homogenised greater whole, people pay lip service to society and yet despise it.




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